Very nice job! One thing you are imo not taking into consideration is, that the weight is giving back energy to the pendulum when they sink down to the ground. So it looks to me like a zero sum game. If you would be able to store the energy gained by lifting the weight, this would be a real pushthrough.
Good luck and keep it up.
These devices in no way violate any of the Laws of Physics. All they do is combine 2 simple mechanical devices, a pendulum, and a lever. You simply take the output of the pendulum and apply it to the input of a lever. On the pendulum side by changing the weight and length you can change the frequency and amount of the output force of the lever.
Thanks Shubus, For your understanding.
Sometimes the written word can be taken the wrong way.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Your “OPINION” is based “largly” on what you have learned from books And what you have been told. My question to you , IS.
Have you ever operated a 2 stage oscillator large enough to trully produce any Rael power ?? I have. And YES; A self runner is exactly what I am not only trying to acomplish BUT I am 100% sure , is possible.
No offense taken. We’re having a civilized discussion, not a flame war. As I stated before, my opinion is that the full machine with escapement action (whatever) will not function as a self-runner. If your intention is NOT to build a self-runner then your purpose evades me. “If you build it, they will come!”
Thanks Zalo10;
I have already compleated the escapements and installed one last Saterday. It not only worked. It worked TOO well. There was so much excess power that the machine kicked to one side causing the pendulum to go off path and damn near distroy everything.
The machine not only works. It works Better than even “I” antisapated.
I will be installing the second escapement this weekend and toning then down a bit
I ma trully sorry if I offinded you. That was not my intention.
When you STOP trying to violat any law. Then learn the law well enough to turn it back in on itself. THEN;;; Just maybe you will see that this machine violates NO laws of physics or therodinamics.
IN FACT. If these laws were wrong. The machine would not work.
Breack the machine down into each individual part and you see that nothing violates any laws.
“Go back to school.” is a poor choice of words considering your grammar. Now, this is interesting that the Pendulum is experiencing a “Weight-Gain” effect due to it’s own centrifugal force acting downward. I say good luck with the escapement, hope it works (just remember that the centrifugal force also takes away, too).
I’ve tried to violate these self-same laws for years and have a nice logbook of non-working projects. So build your escapement and show us the self-runner already. My prediction is that it will not self-sustain.
You strick me as one of those that like to quote laws of physics. BUT ONLY the half that sutes youir needs.
I learned the whole law.
Energy can not be created. This is where you add your own words, “from nothing”. Then you stop.
Sorry, But I learned that energy & matter can not be created NOR distroyed, without creating or distroying the other.
I also learned that energy AND matter come in many forms. And it is possible to change one into another , ( form that is ).
Go back to school.
Energy from the vacuum, my foot. Bearden has no self-runner and neither does the inventor of this gadget,
Veljko Milkovic. The only self-runner I am aware of is by Reidar Finsrud, and the jury is rather divided about how and why this works.
That is exactly my point. I have said over and over again. It is not perpetual motion.
It does nmot creat it’s own power. It transforms potintial energy to kinetic energy.
AND it has parts that will wear out if not maintained.
@RHEAD100
That would be the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: “The second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of an isolated macroscopic system never decreases, or (equivalently) that perpetual motion machines are impossible.”
OR; Could it be the part that has not been written yet. That explains how the more load you apply the the machine the less energy it takes to keep it running. Which is the exact opposet of ANY other machine in the world.
What part of thermodynamics would that be.
The part that says that the only thing that stops a pendulum from swinging is friction of the bearing and the air.
OR; the part that says the less you allow the pivot point of the pendulum to move up and down the less energy is lost from the pendulum..
Or the part that says the power bar is a lever and obays ALL the laws of a lever.
Thank You.
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Very nice job! One thing you are imo not taking into consideration is, that the weight is giving back energy to the pendulum when they sink down to the ground. So it looks to me like a zero sum game. If you would be able to store the energy gained by lifting the weight, this would be a real pushthrough.
Good luck and keep it up.
Thank You very much.
These devices in no way violate any of the Laws of Physics. All they do is combine 2 simple mechanical devices, a pendulum, and a lever. You simply take the output of the pendulum and apply it to the input of a lever. On the pendulum side by changing the weight and length you can change the frequency and amount of the output force of the lever.
This is what we’re all waiting to see.
Thanks Shubus, For your understanding.
Sometimes the written word can be taken the wrong way.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Your “OPINION” is based “largly” on what you have learned from books And what you have been told. My question to you , IS.
Have you ever operated a 2 stage oscillator large enough to trully produce any Rael power ?? I have. And YES; A self runner is exactly what I am not only trying to acomplish BUT I am 100% sure , is possible.
No offense taken. We’re having a civilized discussion, not a flame war. As I stated before, my opinion is that the full machine with escapement action (whatever) will not function as a self-runner. If your intention is NOT to build a self-runner then your purpose evades me. “If you build it, they will come!”
Thanks Zalo10;
I have already compleated the escapements and installed one last Saterday. It not only worked. It worked TOO well. There was so much excess power that the machine kicked to one side causing the pendulum to go off path and damn near distroy everything.
The machine not only works. It works Better than even “I” antisapated.
I will be installing the second escapement this weekend and toning then down a bit
I ma trully sorry if I offinded you. That was not my intention.
When you STOP trying to violat any law. Then learn the law well enough to turn it back in on itself. THEN;;; Just maybe you will see that this machine violates NO laws of physics or therodinamics.
IN FACT. If these laws were wrong. The machine would not work.
Breack the machine down into each individual part and you see that nothing violates any laws.
“Go back to school.” is a poor choice of words considering your grammar. Now, this is interesting that the Pendulum is experiencing a “Weight-Gain” effect due to it’s own centrifugal force acting downward. I say good luck with the escapement, hope it works (just remember that the centrifugal force also takes away, too).
I’ve tried to violate these self-same laws for years and have a nice logbook of non-working projects. So build your escapement and show us the self-runner already. My prediction is that it will not self-sustain.
You strick me as one of those that like to quote laws of physics. BUT ONLY the half that sutes youir needs.
I learned the whole law.
Energy can not be created. This is where you add your own words, “from nothing”. Then you stop.
Sorry, But I learned that energy & matter can not be created NOR distroyed, without creating or distroying the other.
I also learned that energy AND matter come in many forms. And it is possible to change one into another , ( form that is ).
Go back to school.
Energy from the vacuum, my foot. Bearden has no self-runner and neither does the inventor of this gadget,
Veljko Milkovic. The only self-runner I am aware of is by Reidar Finsrud, and the jury is rather divided about how and why this works.
I’ll read your other comments, you seem to have some good points, but I’m not letting you off the hook so easy
@electrician725
Makes no difference if it cannot power itself, and this device cannot.
@shubus: This could be an OPEN SYSTEM.
@RHEAD100
Well then, under this conventional thinking a self-runner will not be possible with the escapement.
That is exactly my point. I have said over and over again. It is not perpetual motion.
It does nmot creat it’s own power. It transforms potintial energy to kinetic energy.
AND it has parts that will wear out if not maintained.
@RHEAD100
That would be the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: “The second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of an isolated macroscopic system never decreases, or (equivalently) that perpetual motion machines are impossible.”
OR; Could it be the part that has not been written yet. That explains how the more load you apply the the machine the less energy it takes to keep it running. Which is the exact opposet of ANY other machine in the world.
What part of thermodynamics would that be.
The part that says that the only thing that stops a pendulum from swinging is friction of the bearing and the air.
OR; the part that says the less you allow the pivot point of the pendulum to move up and down the less energy is lost from the pendulum..
Or the part that says the power bar is a lever and obays ALL the laws of a lever.